-Aaron Rodgers gives Jets cap flexibility by reworking his contract
-Shohei Ohtani off trade market
-Kylian Mbappé turns down over $700 million dollar offer
-Aaron Rodgers gives Jets cap flexibility by reworking his contract
-Shohei Ohtani off trade market
-Kylian Mbappé turns down over $700 million dollar offer
It's just a stats ready down to you, g more, and coming to you from lovely city of Atlanta, georgia and Eugene. We have some interesting news here on the football front. There's actually money going the reverse direction. There's money going back to the team via Aaron Rodgers and there's money going to Justin Herbert very well deserved, by the way which we could sign a guide to that at some point. You know it's crazy. We'll talk about Ohtani and in Bopay too, we'll get to some of those deals, um, and the deals that aren't not being made as far as Ohtani is concerned.
Speaker 1:But we're starting back here in the NFL with Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert. We'll talk Aaron Rodgers first. So with Aaron Rodgers man, a Hundred and ten million, a little over a hundred millions, what he was due to make, that would have put about roughly 50 Pre-year, which I want to say is what he's making last year, about about 50 ish pre-year, yeah, um, and he's taking that down to about roughly 37 per year under Daniel Jones getting paid. He's, he's getting. I was thinking about starting this. Go fund me for him To try to make sure he's gonna be alright. You better make. You know New York's expensive man.
Speaker 2:He's not living in New York, right?
Speaker 1:37 a million, I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Higher state taxes, yeah, higher everything in New York, so yeah exactly I.
Speaker 1:So before we do start to go fund me for Aaron Rodgers will I'm gonna see how that 37, see how he's living with that 37. Maybe we'll kick the tires on that around like October ish or so see how he gets to these next few months. Right, it's impressive to see a guy get back that money and and I remember when the first thing that I because I had a co-worker text me this when it first came down and I remember texting him the first thing I texted was aw man, he must want to win games, yeah that's that's Must be what he's looking to do here, right?
Speaker 1:When I say a guy, give that money back, that means you are saying I want to win games. Right, and you're putting your money where your mouth is. You're pulling the Tom Brady right. Absolutely Could have been the highest paid for last 15 years. Easily could have been the highest paid guy. He was not the highest paid guy for last 15, but easy could have been the highest paid guy for the last 15 years. I think I Cut both ways on this because you know owners never get back money. So always I'm like listen when they're asking players, when these things come down and they're asking players for certain concessions, owners aren't giving these concessions and these guys are billionaires. So I don't ever feel too sorry for people having to show up money to pay these players, who are the ones who are literally putting their Body at risk on the field, right? That being said, you know in the salary cap league you're gonna have to. There's only a finite amount of dollars that can go around.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm and if you got x amount of dollars going to one player, you got to fill your team out with other guys that are being not necessarily Minimum league guys, but you know what I mean like you're not gonna have much money to go around to get skill players and stuff For that nature to keep skill players around you. So I applaud this move by in Roger. I think it right is doing everything right man. Since he's been in New York there's he hasn't done much wrong. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:I know he's. He's been kind of like the reverse, like you would like reverse right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he ever tell you here in Roger news, you kind of would roll your eyes like, oh, here we go again. What's he gonna say? It's like, this is kind of like. This is very like you said, very Tom Brady, ish, right, yeah, cuz he's. You know he's what? 39, 40 years old, he's realizing the it's. It's the door is closing pretty graphically on him. So he has to take this chance and hey, in the front. And then once that news broke about the contract, now you hear delvin cook might go there. So that would be a great piece add and imagine that I'm cooking breeze hall there.
Speaker 1:Whoo, that's a combination right.
Speaker 2:That's a great combination because, you know, now delvin cook has his, you know it does have his injury issue, so it would not be bad to have those two guys back there. So I'm impressed. I mean he's doing all the right things and he's realizing, hey, I can't do it by myself. And and then our. I also heard I think we were reading last night that but diva day, adams might want want to join up, join forces as well.
Speaker 1:So how are they gonna pull that?
Speaker 2:I don't even know.
Speaker 1:I'm not a raiders trading the Vonte Adams. Why would they do that?
Speaker 2:I don't even know. I mean, let's see you like, unless you're, they're gonna go into like a full rebuild, cuz I mean right now land man. Rebuild land. I mean you, you signed Jimmy Garoppolo. You're not really. You're not really thinking you're gonna go to bowl, all right. I mean you're Jimmy's a placeholder for what I'm not run with a rookie.
Speaker 1:If you think so, like if you think that you're Don't really have a shot, why even signed? Why even bother with Jimmy G? If you're the raiders, I don't know if they fully embraced rebuild and yet, cuz, if you do fully embrace rebuild and first thing you do is get the Vonte Adams out of there, right, like the one. That's, that's ruled, that's number one. You get that contract out of there. You get that one. Try to get lower to the ground from a Contract and money standpoint, right. So that's that's kind of like. The indication across leagues is the money. If you follow the money across leagues and you want to know if your team is embracing the rebuild, see if they're jettisoning some of these major contracts, because you'll start to see the money fly out the door. They'll start trying to get those big contracts out of here. Um, I Haven't really seen this with the raiders. Now, of course, it got car and they got. They're tight in. Was your tight in?
Speaker 1:So while I'm yes, waller is out of there now.
Speaker 2:Now is the.
Speaker 1:Vonte Adams and they got Josh Jacobs, who they did franchise. They're like he's your last holdout for the right friend him out of there.
Speaker 2:Yeah is he. Yeah, he's the last holdout everyone else assigned.
Speaker 1:That's very interesting because he will be out of there and I would imagine Devontae Adams to be out of there, right? So if you're entertaining, rebill in, do you even franchise Josh Jacobs? I don't think you do. I just think you say see you later. I think that you say see you later to Devontae Adams too, right? What's the point of having any skill players if you're not making a run at it?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean you, I mean Josh is still kind of he's still young, so maybe you want to try to keep him there. For if you can kind of work out a deal you know a little maybe do it instead of deal to get him back in the building. You know, because again the Jimmy G, again it's just, it's a one. It's basically when your contracts You're not tied for him to for the history. So yeah, I mean true, yeah, like you said in and you're trading, when you trade that kind of contract, you're not gonna get a lot back, right, you're not getting first round picks back from the job Salary dump man.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of items if you, if they were to trade the Adams contract right, right so yeah, it'd be to get rid of that salary yeah but I mean, yeah, it's impressive.
Speaker 2:I'm really. I mean I was, I was very like I didn't. I mean I thought. I mean I really thought the jest we're gonna make at least make the wild card right. But yeah, now if he like tastes less money, they add a couple more pieces. I mean this is there. They're kind of looking like you know could be like the Rams, but again, you still got that Patrick Holmes guy out there Kansas City. You got to go through.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and nothing to the jets AFC. You trade them to another AFC team, right, like you'd be trading them in your conference, not in your division, but you'd be trading them in your conference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that would stink too. But I mean, if you're the the Raiders, you would just like, like you said, just blow it all up and yeah. Yeah, because they're they're probably gonna be not one of the best team. They're they'll probably be middle of the road and and be right there for cuz again. There's at least 10 good, 10 decent quarterbacks. I mean it's very like one, two and three top heavy. And I'm not clean bow Nick's in that, in that conversation. No, he was, unless I sent you by goodness, but there is.
Speaker 2:There is some really good quarterbacks coming back out of college next year, so I mean, how is bow Nick's like 27?
Speaker 1:how old is bow Nick's so?
Speaker 2:it's funny.
Speaker 1:Well, look, he's 23, so okay, so he, even if he was to come out at like next year, you'd be coming out around 23 for 24. So it would be still pretty old for a quarterback coming out right, most these guys, they were. They're coming out like what, 21?, 21-22 around there, mm-hmm, he's going all for for I don't know if he's exercising another year of eligibility. I'm not sure exactly how.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was that. Yeah, he is doing an extra because he was. They were projecting him come out last year because he did three years at Auburn, then one year obviously transferred to.
Speaker 1:He's in Oregon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's Oregon, thank you. And then yeah, he's, he's, I think. I'm assuming he has one more year eligibility, so that's interesting, man, because watch bow Nick's.
Speaker 1:Come on, be that guy, because I I Spent a good part of the I do. Another sports podcast called sports crib is every Wednesday's live show and I did spin the lat like so about three weeks ago I did crap on bow Nick's on that show. So I Watch him. Come out, just tear it up and make me.
Speaker 2:We crap on something like oh, look at him, he's in the Super Bowl great.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bury him, I'm just saying I'm surprised that it's still a thing Going. Let's go to Justin Herbert here getting paid five years to 62. He has about half of that roughly guaranteed at signing. Um, no brainer here. No, there's nothing to see here, right, nothing to see here. Man Like this guy is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1:I'm a fan because I like this style of play. I think it does not as risky as that mobile quarterback. The mobile quarterback is exciting style of play. I love seeing Lamar Jackson take off and run. I love just watching the Marjaxon play. Right, you watch your Lamar Jackson's Jalen hurt to the world play, man you. Just, it just seems like something's gonna happen, right, it seems like, man, they're gonna make something happen. It's so exciting, but it's also can be, if these are my teams, so nerve-wracking. Yeah, my quarterback. I don't mind watching your quarterback run around. I don't want to watch my quarterback run around. I want him down on the ground. Pro, slide, get down. I don't want you trying to get that extra yard. I don't want any of that happening. I want you throwing that ball and I think that that's where a player like Justin Herbert Comes in.
Speaker 1:A guy like that who does, who's got more of traditional style of play, doesn't really want to take off like that. And I feel the same way, kind of, about Jalen hurts. To be honest, we Jalen hurts can run, but Jalen hurts can throw that thing to and and say, well, lamar, don't disrespect him. Yeah, he can throw it over your head. And even during his contract dispute I remember thinking during his contract situation it was it Not that I wouldn't want to pay him the money, but I would want some kind of injury Guarantee because he's just not finishing season.
Speaker 1:So right, I don't think that's a good investment If you've already seen something and then you pay money in hopes that you won't see that something again, even though that's what you just saw the last two years. Right. So I'm that was where I was at with Lamar, but not necessarily from a. When he plays that is when he's plays is worth every cent, in my opinion, to that franchise and I think the same thing here with Justin Herbert worth every cent every year. I don't really see. I mean, once you get into paying quarterbacks, this kind of money does get restrictive to what you can do with your team. You know it's gonna be hard to build around the guys is making this kind of money, man. So it will do another and we'll do a separate episode here on this, on just how much the money is getting and how restrictive it can be for teams that are gonna really try to go after it. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm just that On his contract or what you just yeah, on his contract and we'll try to talk about.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll do a separate episode on okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I like it, no brainer, I mean so not. So I mean it's kind of surprising, since you know the, the they're the chargers are used to kind of a cheap franchise.
Speaker 1:So you know I mean kudos to them for that was a San Diego chargers Budget in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that they added the former offensive coordinator, um, from Dallas to them. I think they're just going to be a great fit. I mean, he was great. I think he was great with Dak. They got lombardi out there. So we are we've we've done a separate podcast on lombardi and that and his in his offensive Woe. So I think it's a it'll be a great fit. And they got let me get eckler back they got, and you know the, the pieces of those that they got signed his tender.
Speaker 2:Right, he's, he's signed there, um, but yeah, and they've got their two, their two stud receivers and they got a good draft pick, who's who's who can go vertical, which they I think they were missing. I mean, they've got two kind of diesel engine receivers, which is not bad, but they just kind of got one speed right and so they, when they they got I came, they drafted a really good vertical receiver. So they're gonna be a good team. They're. It's in herberts, obviously, like you said, he the good thing about him is like him it hurts.
Speaker 2:They can run if they need to, but they don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they can get you a few yards, you know, and you have to respect the arm and I feel like maybe it's just because of herberts stature A little bit bigger guy the jail in herts but jail in herts is not he's. He's stout, but he's not like he is big bin status, you know what I mean. Like, you know, like a big guy, I feel like you could absorb those hits. Yeah, a lot easier to kind of the opposite of what's going on with Bryce young right now and where people are scared and gonna hold their breath every time he gets.
Speaker 1:Every time you're gonna hold their breath and you got a bigger guy. You feel like he, that guy could take more hits like that right.
Speaker 2:Right exactly. So yeah, yeah, absolutely. But yeah, no brainer happy. And you know, no, he wasn't. Hey, let's just face it, he wasn't, he wasn't going anywhere. You don't let a franchise go to back, walk up.
Speaker 1:You're not getting out of here, bro, you're not getting out of here, right, and let's speak into that, let's. That's a great segue to our next subject. Let's talk about otani here. So, hey, showtime show, hey, showtime otani here. Who is um? Take it over to league this year?
Speaker 1:I Know we originally had kicked around him, the angels, not trading him or trading him, I thought in previous episode and kind of suggested there are Good and bad to both in my opinion. So the good is to not trading him Is you're gonna make a run, you get more time to have them in the room, have them to yourself to try to stay in his ear in hopes that he stays there. Maybe, you add, maybe you give yourself a little more time to try to prove that you can't build a contender there. I think that's gonna be content. That's gonna be kind of Based on what they do this year at the end of the year, like how close do they actually get?
Speaker 1:But the bad part, and and from saving phase I think I told you before too that I don't think the execs had the stomach for it. You didn't. That proved to be kind of right, like on the other side, I don't think the execs had the stomach for it, like you, you don't. I think a few of them were scared to have their name attached to trading such such a star, such like a diamond in the rough, so to speak. You know, I mean because the guy is a unique star, he's not just a star, he's a very unique star. Yes, you know, and I don't think that they had the people that are in the moment, because you got to have the future In vision to trade the guy right. You got to be thinking right down the road like hey what's best for the team a long term.
Speaker 1:So it doesn't surprise me that he wasn't traded. But it wouldn't surprise me if he was, because I do think they could have got something for him if they had traded them. How much, I don't know, because if teams feel like they can take a run run at you a few weeks from now, I don't see why they don't just hold out and take a run at you later. But I do think it's interesting. They're gonna try to make a run at it. I Still think he does hit free out. It'll be shocking to me because we'll have the opposite of Herbert right. So Herbert would have been shocking if he Did hit free agency would show hey, oh, tani, it'll be shocking if he doesn't Go to free agency.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in my opinion that's a little shock me.
Speaker 1:Whether he says what the angels are. Maybe he does still stay with him, but I'm going. Yeah, I'm gonna hit free agency. I'm gonna test the waters For sure. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, it's, it's, you're right. I mean, I just, I just look at the standings, I just, and they're just, they're just, they have to climb a huge hole. And I just look at the teams above them and they're there's teams that are peaking now, at the right time, and they're, they're kind of just in that same rudderless Us when I watch them, um, and we don't know when trouts gonna come back. I haven't, I haven't heard an update when he's coming back. Um.
Speaker 1:I don't know that's in man, huh yeah and he's disappointing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's their second best player, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1:And I feel like you need that right right.
Speaker 2:So if you're gonna make a, if you're gonna make a playoff push, he's got to be part of it. I know he should. I'm assuming he should be back soon. But yeah, without him there's no protection in the lineup. Yeah, it's like there was a pitcher last night. He's like, look, I'm gonna throw to him because there's I'm gonna, I'm gonna peak. He pitched in no time because there's no BS behind him that can hit. So I'll keep challenging him until he's still something else that team can prove that they can hit. So If you're right but I mean, if I'm the GM, I'm just throwing out that king ramsome request and seeing what comes back.
Speaker 1:Right, I'd like is something gonna come back for a guy that you don't know who's gonna be there? Like I think they have a distress asset in the sense that when these things happen, we all know that he can hit free agency here in about eight weeks, right.
Speaker 2:We all know it Exactly. What do you want to give up for that? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like I'm not giving up a ton for a guy. I know it ages free agency in the fall like, and you know why would I give up a ton for that? Yeah, I know, eugene, that he's resigning with me.
Speaker 2:No, right, and that way. And then, or at least, you've had one more year control Cause, like, like when we brought the, the, the, the uh thing last week, it's the same situation. Like the, it made sense for San Diego to give up so much for him because the he'll, so that one year you know that extra eligibility year, right, so they, they're going. I mean, too bad, it's not working out for the mystery cause. I know their thought process was like okay, well, well we'll, we'll be fine, we'll get rid of all these prospects.
Speaker 1:And they had. San Diego had a good team. On paper, man, they do.
Speaker 2:And they still do, and that's the thing, and they and I. But. But now they're, they're shopping some of their guys and I've heard one is actually being shot, but he's in the same situation, he can hit free. He's going to hit free agency at this year, cause he's not again, he's not dumb, he's doing the same thing. Oh tiny's idea. Those two guys are going to hit free agency at the same time. So so it only free agency this year.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a disaster for the Padres, in my opinion. Like I don't, I think that you would have had to hope that you can get, hope that you can convince him to stay with you. Right, yeah, they, they did give up.
Speaker 2:They gave up. They gave up some stuff, man.
Speaker 1:Right To get this guy in. If he walks in one calendar year, he walks to the calendar. You gave up all that stuff for one guy. That that was in hopes that you can convince him maybe to stay for longer than that Right.
Speaker 2:Right, right, cause, I mean, cause you, you got him back, cause you gave him up. They gave the King ransom up last year. Then you had that one extra year with them and but you got, this was the year right. You make the push, yeah, push for the because, okay, you, you, you, you beat the Mets but you lost them. You know you lost the Phillies and in the uh, in the, in the, you know, in the uh, naturally, championship series.
Speaker 2:And now, now, you're not even relevant this year, you're, you're, you're just treading water this year. So I mean you, I mean you could still kind of make a push for that last, that last one, those last mile car spots, cause it's a little more doable than the east, than it is. I think in I'm not starting the NL versus Dale, but yeah, I, I, I, I don't know it's, I just you're right, uh, with Ohtani, it's, it's just crazy that I mean, I hope it's just one of things. If you, if you, he walks away, all you're doing, you're, you know you're going to get one draft back for him. So who knows what you got for him If you traded them.
Speaker 1:I think, when you look at it from that perspective of what you could have had versus what you will have, I think that changes. I mean, oh, at least it puts things in the ground. I want to say it changes things cause he did still end up staying, but are they still end up keeping them? But I do think that I don't know, man, I don't know, I think that just couldn't stomach sending him somewhere else. And from a box office standpoint you know what I mean From a a several marketing standpoint, team standpoint, I just think that they couldn't stomach. Right, it'd be like trading, trading your best player at the end of the year with hopes of keeping him. Like, look at a Damian Lillard type situation. Right, we look at the. They don't want to trade them now. He's already asked for it. They still don't want to let him go out and they don't want to let him out of there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And of course, lillard is not an unrestricted free agent. But the thing is is that I'm going to the similarity of a guy being in your house and you not wanting to let him out. Like you, they just they're. They're holding on to Tani's leg man. They do not want him to leave that building. Um, I don't think he's going to leave the West coast. I do think that he stays there. I think he stays on the coast. I think he does too.
Speaker 2:Cause. Again, we know the, the girlfriend or the wife, I don't. I can't remember the lawyer relationship status, but I know that I know he's comfortable out there because I know she's in there, I think she in night. And and I listened to Jeff Parsons. Jeff Parsons the other day. He made a great point about Tani. He says it goes we got to remember too that when these, these guys are comfortable, um, they're comfortable in their surroundings and it's and it's just like anything else, like if you could start a new job. You got to learn your new boss, learn all these new things. Learn these new things about your organization, about the team.
Speaker 1:Get back into the zone that you were already in at your previous situation, correct?
Speaker 2:So now you're asking him to just say he has to go. He goes to the Dodgers or I don't know some. You guys are right. I believe it's going to be a West coast team. Whatever it is, I don't think he comes to New York, or or I've heard, you know, I've heard our team Atlanta in those in those things too.
Speaker 2:I wish, yeah, I do too, but it just I think, the West coast and let's just face it, I mean, if I'm a player, I want to be in the West coast as well. Yeah, absolutely, whether it's nice, Come on man, beautiful weather, all the time you kidding me when?
Speaker 1:why? Why not? If you're already there and you have the ability to go there, right, why would you? Why would you not? You can go brave Northeast winners and stuff like that Are you? Is that what you're looking to do? Why, when you don't have to? And the thing is too about a trade like this is does he want the win? How much is he prioritizing winning? Cause that will be where you start to get those other teams involved. That's where, cause other teams can't compete from a location. Your location is your location. If you're located in Northeast, you're located in Southeast, you're located on the East period, you're located there. You can't change that, right. However, if you decide that, if he opens it up to, I just want to win now, more teams get opened up, eugene, now that that, yeah, that statement opens up more teams. Well, if you want to win now, the Braves do become viable. You see what I'm saying now, now, now these other teams do become viable teams.
Speaker 2:All these teams on the East coast can become viable. It's like, oh wait, you want to win now, cause. It's kind of like that time when we we talked about Carmelo. Carmelo, that's kind of like, well too, when JJ White signed with um, with Arizona is like it's like, oh, you're just going there cause they're paying you the most money.
Speaker 1:You don't want to win, you don't you're not winning there, bro, you're not winning there, you're not winning there.
Speaker 2:Right, you signed there and cause that was the one thing. When he signed there, we all kind of ate it up and they gave him the most money and I'm not faulting him.
Speaker 1:I never, I would never fall to my proud capitalists here, man I don't, I don't, I don't fault you taking most money, but you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth, eugene, correct? You want to win or you want to take the most money. A lot of times those things aren't the same thing. You're going to diverge. Your paths are going to diverge sometimes. Sometimes they can be. Sometimes your paths are going to diverge, right, right, no.
Speaker 2:And he probably will be him, and one will probably be either one a1b, both the highest paid players. I'll take either one of them in right on both teams. But if he, if Otani stays with in an LA, doesn't, if he stays with Anaheim, he's not winning, he's just never. There does not got to be a winning franchise.
Speaker 1:If you weren't able to win with trout and him there all these years I mean not all these done like that, been there for like 10 years, but they they've been there longer than one and like, if you haven't been able to put something together with them and you've had this and unfortunately with the trout situation has been injury Issues here there's no guarantee that I'll be settled, even if you were as a resigner. You know, a guy on paper is not the same thing as the guy on field, as we've seen in in other sports. Right, it's not the same.
Speaker 2:So no, I mean you're hoping to be able to keep him.
Speaker 1:Maybe he can get a run, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's different, though, if you let's just say they sign him to a 10 year, whatever the numbers crazy numbers gonna be and then you trade half a million dollars right.
Speaker 2:Half billion dollars Right and you try and you try gets healthy. You trade him this offseason for a bunch of building pieces. So then you at least you have him there, and now you have the pieces start building around him. So maybe, maybe they do that, but what do? Let's see. We'll see what. What happens with the decision. I would have traded him, though that would have been me to suit. I'll see what I got.
Speaker 1:What are you face? You face down the firing squad there and just and just and just let it go, just let it rip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because like you said if I can't win, I've had trout. For how many years I had made a bullet Trouts, I think when he's been to one playoff series.
Speaker 1:Yeah under delivered on the contract. For sure of the, the money being paid is not equating to what they felt the w's were. But that's my trout, though a Mike trout, mike trout, I kind of it's not him.
Speaker 2:He. His wins were. His wins are against replacement. When versus replacement is is is one of the highest. So he's done all he could. He can't. It's baseball. You've got to have other guys on that team. You've got a back, so he's doing all he can.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about in bop it here at the end as we wind our show down here. Let's talk about it a little bit, about in bop a turning down. So when bop a turned out about over 700 million dollars from the sides to play for one year this is a situation that surprised a lot of people around me, but did not surprise me for a couple reasons. So I'm gonna give a reason that I feel like he could have taken it taking it and a reason why. The reason why I Don't think it's crazy that he didn't. No, for one.
Speaker 1:A lot of people, when they're looking at money, depending on what your socioeconomic situation is, you feel like it's gonna solve all your problems. If you're on the lower and I feel like this there, people who are on the lower level, the socioeconomic scale, really feel this because they haven't had a chance to have the money and see how much it doesn't change things. If you have women problems, when you're broke, making money is gonna have women around you, but you're still gonna have women problems because that's if that's inherently you money just gonna make it more. Maybe you have women problem with three or four women now because you have money, so maybe now you have several women problem versus having it with like one person. You know, buddy, money changes your economic condition. I do think it can make you happier to a certain degree, because it being poor, not being able to pay your bills, would definitely make you sad, right? So If you're able to pay your bills and you you now you can pay your bills you don't have to worry about the, the purchases you make. You can purchase anything you want. That's gonna bring a certain level of happiness with you.
Speaker 1:But there's a cap to that. There's a cap to that and I really feel like In vape at what, like 24? Um, as probably even now From endorsements and money's already made. It's gotta be hard for him to spend the money he has now, right, so you just add more money onto it, maybe generation, or maybe for the kids that haven't been born yet, maybe for something like that. People might feel like maybe that changes his life. But if you are a 24 year old kid, uh, why would you be thinking about that? You're probably thinking about what makes me happy now. I've already got more money than I could spend. I'm already on yachts now. I can already fly private now.
Speaker 1:Right right, um, what, and? And I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia, so, like, it's pretty simple, right? So if you're like I want to live where I want to live and that's not act like, your offers aren't going to be nine figure offers, anyway, you're gonna get offered nine figure offers, bro, like you're, you have two to three hundred million coming anyway. Right, no matter that, that's just the going rate for a player of that caliber. Right, you're one of the most popular players in the world. Your endorsement money can reach nine figures, you're, you're a popular player, so you get to do what you want.
Speaker 1:Guys, when you have that kind of money and that means turning down much more money is one of those things that you can do. When you have that kind of money, you can turn down much more because you already have it right, or we talked about this with Tom Brady and turning down money. He already had money. So it's kind of like To Tom Brady he wants to win, the one thing that he can't buy. You can't buy those w's. If you have a team that can win or you're in a place that you want to be, that's what you do. Look at how many people take pay cuts to be in a place like LA. We just talk about LA, right? Yep, people go to LA. They'll take that shave right. Look at Russell Westbrook could have got more money than what he made this year. He said I'm staying in LA, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, staying in LA I'm not poor and I'm gonna stay where I want to be. So the situation with him bop a, that's my case for him not taking the money. My case for him taking the money was this is similar to the same situation with age. You're only 24. This is only a one-year contract. You do your one year in Saudi Arabia, you're out of there at 25 700 over 700 million dollars richer, right, and you're still out of there at 25. So when you weigh them, I gave way more reasons for him not to take it than to take it because I really play.
Speaker 1:That's the only reason you take it right. If you don't want to be in Saudi Arabia, you're only there for the money. You're not there for your the course of your career, you're there for the cash and um being that you're only 24, you still have the opportunity to go to Real Madrid or another place. If you want to go there, um 25, you're not over the hill. You know what I mean. You'll still have people offering you Another nine figures at that age. You know so. He's gonna be offered be getting these nine figure offers for the next couple of contract cycles. In my opinion, yeah, so I do get it. Where's this a surprise to you that he turned down the money?
Speaker 2:No, because he, like you said he's 24, but in your right he could go there one year. But man would that hurt his hurt, his stature, right and now you know that's probably the level of play right, because they're, you're not.
Speaker 1:It's definitely not a premier league there.
Speaker 2:Not a premier league and also just the optics, right? You don't want to be associated with me? I mean, let's just, I know we're gonna talk about live golf at some point, but you want to be associated with what, what, saudis and just what that I mean, because that's the new, your golf is pretty much an international sport. So you can't tell me that, that he didn't hear about the backlash from that and he said he's one of the most popular.
Speaker 2:So here's thing in soccer, that stuff, those kind of sports over there, if you do something like that it's gonna follow you. It's kept like. I mean, look at, look at Christian Rondo, all the allegations that followed him in the World Cup. So it would follow him always the next World Cup because he's gonna be 28, 27, 28 with the next World Cup. That would still come up. If he played one year, when was the size like like the karma police would come after him for next several years in white and, like you said, he's probably gonna sign with Real Madrid, which would make the most sense. You know they go go somewhere.
Speaker 1:Rumor seems to be that he wants to be there, and there's nine figures waiting for you there, buddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So why just go to the team you know? And then when you know that I could get, then when World Cups become cut, world Cup comes back around, I get to be one of the best players again gonna be. My team's probably gonna be favored. All right, sorry, my country's gonna be favored when I go to the World Cup. Why, just why, mess with the optics like that? You know I'm gonna make, he's gonna make that money somewhere else.
Speaker 1:You know it may, he may not be that Dharma a lot of places else he's gonna have it, I feel like the endorsements alone to pay him For the next 20 years, right? So, because those endorsements keep going after your career stops, my friend, if you're successful, like he's been successful, he's look at, look at paylay man. Look at, yeah, paylay, successful till he passed like it Didn't matter that he wasn't playing. We knew who this guy was. We knew everybody knows who paylay, everyone who paylay is. And Because of his past success, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing we know when, really know, I mean. I mean I'm not saying no one, but most Novice soccer fans didn't know about it. My bad pay until we watched the World Cup.
Speaker 2:We got and we excellent player excellent player and we actually got for once other than this pass for bowl, a two top players Actually perform at the highest levels, like we got to see messy perform at a tight level. We got to see about they perform at a high level. Usually that doesn't happen. Usually one guy, one guy is good one guys phase. But, like I said, we were spoiled. We got that. And then we got super bowl. We had a Come you know, two great quarterback plays, which usually doesn't happen, even in Super Bowl. So to have that a World Cup stage and him to be like okay for all the soccer fans who knew of him knew he's great, that's awesome. Now I'm the like you and I are the novice soccer fans. We've, we've very. They admit that, you know we yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:We watch it every four years on occasion, man on occasion, and we'll go to a United game if Right, usually that does.
Speaker 1:I've been sponsored there. I have not laid out my own.
Speaker 2:But again, I go to the Saints, I have fun, I watched World Cup, I enjoy it and but it's the thing I didn't know of him until I watched him and I was like, wow, and you can like, because I really honestly I was watching this the last year's foes cuz for met Messy and Ronaldo because those guys are older and I want to at least watch them probably.
Speaker 2:They're last world-class players right, and I was like, wait a minute, who's this guy? And I was like, and then, and then you thought the archer team was gonna just walk away with it. And he's like, uh-huh, he came in, just the bulldoze. You know this. We got them back in that, got his country back in the end of the game. But yeah, he's, he's fine. Don't though, we don't need to start a gofin go fund me for him either.
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