-NFL preseason injuries
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-NFL preseason injuries
-Arthur Blank says Desmond Ridder is the Falcons QB of the future
-NY Mets throwing in the towel on a very expensive season
Just a statue down to you, g more, and coming to you from lovely city of Atlanta, georgia and Eugene. We have some interesting news here on the football front. There's actually money going the reverse direction. There's money going back to the team via Aaron Rodgers and there's money going to Justin Herbert very well deserved, by the way which we could sign a guide to that At some point. You know it's crazy. We'll talk about Otani and in Bapetu We'll get to some of those deals and the deals that aren't not being made as far as Otani is concerned.
Speaker 1:But we're starting back here in the NFL with Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert. We'll talk Aaron Rodgers first. So with Aaron Rodgers man, 110 million a little over 100 million is what he was due to make. That would have put about roughly 50 per year, which I want to say is what he was making last year, about 50ish per year, and he's taking that down to about roughly 37 per year under Daniel Jones. Getting paid, he's, he's getting. I was thinking about starting this GoFundMe for him to try to make sure he's going to be all right and be able to make, you know, new York's expensive man.
Speaker 2:He's not living in Green Bay anymore. Man Living in New York Right 37 million, I mean. I don't know. Higher state taxes, yeah, higher everything in New York, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly so before we do start the GoFundMe for Aaron Rodgers, we'll I'm going to see how that 37, see how he's living with that 37. Maybe we'll kick the tires on that around like October-ish or so See how he gets to these next few months, right, but it's impressive to see a guy get back that money and I remember when the first thing that I because I had a coworker text me this when it first came down and I remember texting him the first thing I texted him was oh man, he must want to win games. Sets, sets, sets must be what he's looking to do here. Right, whenever I say a guy, give that money back, that means you are saying I want to win games, right, and you're putting your money where your mouth is. You're pulling the Tom Brady right. Absolutely, tom Brady could have been the highest paid for the last 15 years. Easily Could have been the highest paid guy and he was not the highest paid guy for the last 15, but easy, could have been the highest paid guy for the last 15 years.
Speaker 1:I think I cut both ways on this because you know owners never give back money. So always I'm like listen when they're asking players, when these things come down and they're asking players for certain concessions. Owners aren't giving these concessions and these guys are billionaires. So I don't ever feel too sorry for people having to shell out money to pay these players, who are the ones who are literally putting their body at risk on the field, right? That being said, you know in the salary cap league you're going to have to. There's only a finite amount of dollars that can go around and if you got X amount of dollars going to one player, you're going to fill your team out with other guys that are being not necessarily minimum league guys, but you know what I mean. Like you're not going to have much money to go around to get skilled players and stuff of that nature to keep skilled players around you.
Speaker 1:So I applaud this move by Aaron Rodgers. I think Aaron Rodgers is doing everything right, man. Since he's been in New York there's, he hasn't done much wrong. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:I know he's been kind of like the reverse, like you would like reverse Right. Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers, you kind of would roll your eyes like, oh, here we go again. What's he going to say? It's like um, this is kind of like. This is very like you said, very Tom Brady-ish, right. Um, yeah, Uh, cause he's, you know he's what, 30 on, 40 years old, he's realizing the it's, it's.
Speaker 2:the door is closing pretty rapidly on him, so he has to take this chance. And hey, and then and then, once that news broke about the contract, now you hear Delvin Cook might go there, so that would be a great piece ad Imagine.
Speaker 1:Delvin, cook and Bree's hall. There Woo, that's a great combination right.
Speaker 2:That's a great combination, cause, you know, now Delvin Cook has his you know, has does have his injury issue, so it would not be bad to have those two guys back there. So I'm, I'm impressed. I mean he's doing all the right things and he's realizing, hey, I can't do it by myself. And then our. I also heard I think we were reading last night that um, but D Vante Adams might want to join up, join forces as well.
Speaker 1:So how are they going to pull that I? Don't even know I'm not. I'm the Raiders trading to Vante Adams. Why would they do that?
Speaker 2:I don't even know. I mean unless you like, unless you're going to go into like a full rebuild, cause I mean right now rebuild land man rebuild land. I mean you, you signed Jimmy Garoppolo. You're not really. You're not really thinking you're going to go to bowl, all right. I mean you're. Jimmy is a placeholder for whatever. Why not?
Speaker 1:run with a rookie. If you think so, like if you think that you don't really have a shot, why even signed? Why even bother with Jimmy G? I don't know if they're Raiders, I don't know if they fully embraced rebuild land yet, cause if you do fully embrace rebuild land, first thing you do is get the Vante Adams out of there. That's like the one that's, that's ruled, that's number one. You get that contract out of there. You try to get lower to the ground from a um contract and money standpoint Right. So that's. That's kind of like. The indication across leagues is the money. If you follow the money across leagues and you want to know if your team is embracing the rebuild, see if they're jettisoning some of these major contracts, cause you'll start to see the money fly out the door. You'll start trying to get those big contracts out of here. Um, I haven't really seen this with the Raiders. Now, of course, it got car and they got uh. They're tight in. What was your tight in? Uh?
Speaker 1:so while I'm yes, Waller is out of there now.
Speaker 2:Uh, now it was the.
Speaker 1:Vante Adams. Now they got Josh Jacobs, who they did franchise.
Speaker 2:He's their last holdout for the right friend, get him out of there. Yeah, is he. Yeah, everyone else assigned.
Speaker 1:That's very interesting because he will be out of there and I would imagine Devante Adams to be out of there, right? So if you're entertaining re-building, do you even franchise Josh Jacobs? I don't think you do. I just think you say see you later. Uh, I think that you say see you later to the Vonte Adams too, right? What's the point of having any skill players if you're not making a run at it?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean you, I mean Josh is still kind of he's still young, so maybe you want to keep him there. For if you can kind of work out a deal you know a little maybe do it instead of deal to get him back in the building. You know, cause again the Jimmy G, again, it's just, it's a one, it's basically one year contract, so you're not tied for him to for the history. So but yeah, I mean yeah, like you said, and you're trading, when you trade that kind of contract, you're not going to get a lot back right, you're not getting first round picks back from the jacks Salary dump, man Salary dump as far as, like the Vonte Adams, if they were to trade the Adams contract, right, right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it'd be to get rid of that salary, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I mean, yeah, it's impressive. I'm really. I mean I was, I was very like I didn't. I mean I thought, I mean I really thought the Jess we're going to make at least make the wildcard right. But yeah, now if he like takes less money, they add a couple more pieces. I mean this is they're. They're kind of looking like you know could be like the Rams, but again, you still got that Patrick Mahomes guy out there in Kansas City. You got to go through.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's yeah, and another thing too the Jets AFC. You trade them to another AFC team, Right, Like you'd be trading them in your conference, not in your division, but you'd be trading them in your conference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that would stink too. But I mean, if you're the, the Raiders, you would just like, like you said, just blow it all up and yeah, yeah, cause they're they're probably going to be not one of the best team, they're probably be middle of the road and and be right there for cause, again, there's at least 10 good, 10 decent quarterbacks. I mean it's very like one, two, three top heavy, and I'm not putting bow nicks in that, in that conversation. No, he was.
Speaker 2:I sent you but but there is. There is some really good quarterbacks coming back out of college next year, so I mean, how is bow nicks like 27?
Speaker 1:How old is bow nicks? Yeah, so it's funny.
Speaker 2:Well, look, he's 23.
Speaker 1:So he's still, he's still he, even if he was to come out at like next year, he'd be coming out around 23 for 24. So it was still pretty old for a quarterback coming out Right, Most of these guys. They were coming out like what? 21. 21, 22. Around there. Um, he's going all four, four. I don't know if he's exercising another year of eligibility. I'm not sure exactly how happy he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is doing an extra cause he was. They were projecting him come out last year because he did three years at Auburn, then one year. Obviously he transferred to um.
Speaker 1:Oregon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's in Oregon. Thank you, um. And then, yeah, he's, he's, I think.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming he has one more year of eligibility, so that's interesting, man, because watch bonex command, be that guy, cause I, I I spent a good part of the. I do another, uh, sports podcast called sports crib is every Wednesday's live show. Um, and I did spend the lat like so about three weeks ago I did crap on bonex on that show. So I watch him come out and just tear it up and make it look like.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know it's usually what happens, right, we crap on someone and like, oh, look at him, he's in the super bowl. Great, I didn't see that coming, so maybe he comes into league tears a legal fire.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to, I'm not going to bury him, I'm just saying I'm surprised that it's still a thing It'd be honest with you, I'm going to go in.
Speaker 1:Let's go to Justin Herbert here getting paid five years 262. He has about half of that roughly guaranteed at signing. Um, no brainer here, no brainer. There's nothing to see here, right, nothing to see here. Man Like this guy is absolutely amazing. Um, I'm a fan because I like this style of play. I think it does not as risky as that mobile quarterback. The mobile quarterback is exciting style of play.
Speaker 1:I love seeing Lamar Jackson take off and run. I love watching Lamar Jackson play. Right, you watch your Lamar Jackson's Jalen hurt to the world play, man, you. Just, it just seems like something's going to happen, right, it seems like, man, they're going to make something happen. It's so exciting, but it's also can be, if these are my teams, so nerve wrecking. Yeah, my quarterback, I don't mind watching your quarterback run around. I don't want to watch my quarterback run around. I want him down on the ground. Pro, slide, get down. I don't want you trying to get that extra yard. I don't want any of that happening. Um, I want you throwing that ball and I think that that's where a player like Justin Herbert comes in.
Speaker 1:A guy like that, who does who's got more of traditional style of play, doesn't really want to take off like that. And I feel the same way kind of about Jalen hurts. To be honest with me, jalen hurts can run, but they're the first can throw that thing to it. And same thing with Lamar. Don't disrespect him. Yeah, he can throw it over your head and even during his contract dispute I remember thinking during his contract situation it was not that I wouldn't want to pay him the money, but I would want some kind of injury guarantee because he's just not finishing season.
Speaker 1:So I don't think that's a good investment If you've already seen something and then you pay money in hopes that you won't see that something again, even though that's what you just saw the last two years, right. So I'm uh, that was where I was at with Lamar, but not necessarily from a when he plays. That is when he's plays. He's worth every cent, in my opinion, to that franchise. And I think the same thing here with Justin Herbert worth every cent. Every cent. Here I don't really see. I mean, once you get into paying quarterbacks, this kind of money, it does get restrictive to what you can do with your team. You know it's going to be hard to build around the guys. Is making this kind of money, man. Um so, and we'll do another, we'll do a separate episode here on this, on just how much the money is getting and how restrictive it can be for teams that are going to really try to go after it. Uh, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:Oh, just on his contract, or will you just?
Speaker 1:yeah, on his contract and we'll try to talk about a separate episode on the other stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I like it, no brainer, I mean so not. So I mean it's kind of surprising Since you know the, the, the chargers are used to kind of a cheap franchise. So you know I mean Kudos to them for stepping up.
Speaker 1:That was a San Diego Chargers, not our late chargers. Yeah. So what is? They switch cities now they're never going to help us. You can't have that San Diego budget in Los Angeles. You're going to get killed out there. Um yeah.
Speaker 2:And I love that. They added the um, the former offensive coordinator Um, from Dallas, to them. I think it's gonna be a great fit. I mean, he was great. I think he was great with that. They got Lombardi out there, so and we are, we've we've done a separate podcast on Lombardi and that and his in his offensive Woe. So I think it's it'll be a great fit. And they got let me get Echler back they got and you know the, the pieces of those that they got signed his tinder right, he's, he signed there, um, but yeah, and they've got their two, their two stud receivers and they got a good draft pick.
Speaker 2:Who's who's who can go vertical, which they I think they were missing. I mean, they've got two kind of diesel engine receivers, which is not bad, but they just kind of got one speed right and so they, when they they got I came, they drafted a really good vertical receiver. So they're gonna be a good team there. It's in Herbert's obviously, like you said, he the good thing about him is like him and Hertz they can run if they need to, but they don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they can get you a few yards, you know, and you have to respect the arm and I feel like maybe it's just because of Herbert stature, a little bit bigger guy, the Jalen hurts, but Jalen hurts is not he's stout, but he's not. Like he is big Ben status, you know what I mean. Like you know, I, a big guy, feel like you could absorb those hits. Yeah, a lot easier to kind of the opposite of what's going on with Bryce, young right now and where people are scared and gonna hold their breath every time he gets.
Speaker 2:Every time you're gonna hold their breath.
Speaker 1:You got a bigger guy. You feel like he, that guy, could take more hits like that. Right, right, exactly.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, absolutely. But yeah, no brainer happy and you know not, he wasn't. Hey, let's just face it, he wasn't, he wasn't going anywhere. You don't let a franchise quarterback walk up, you're not getting out of here, bro, right?
Speaker 1:You're not getting out of here, right, and let's speak into that, let's. That's a great segue to our next subject. Let's talk about Otani here. So, hey, show time show. Hey, show time. Otani here.
Speaker 1:Who is Taking over the league this year? I Know we originally had kicked around him the angels, not trading him or trading him. I thought on previous episode and kind of suggested there are Good and bad to both in my opinion. So the good is to not trading him is you're gonna make a run, you get more time to have them in the room, have them to yourself to try to stay in his ear in hopes that he stays there. Maybe you add, maybe give yourself a little bit more time to try to prove that you can't build a contender there. I think that's gonna be content. That's gonna be kind of Based on what they do this year at the end of the year, like how close do they actually get?
Speaker 1:But the bad part, and from saving phase, I think I told you before too that I don't think the execs had the stomach for it. You didn't. That proved to be kind of right. Like on the other side, I don't think the execs had the stomach for it. Like you, you don't. I Think a few of them were scared to have their name attached to trading such such a star. It's such like a diamond in the rough, so to speak. Right, I mean because the guy's a unique star. He's not just a star, he's a very unique star.
Speaker 1:Yes you know, and I don't think that they had the People that are in the moment, because you got to have the future Envision to trade the guy right. You got to be thinking right down the road like, hey, what's best for the team, a long term. So it doesn't surprise me that he wasn't traded. But it wouldn't surprise me if he was, because I do think they could have got something for him If they had traded them. How much, I don't know, because if teams feel like they can take a run run at you a few weeks from now, I don't see why they don't just hold out and take a run at you later. But I do think it's interesting. They're gonna try to make a run at it. I Still think he does hit free out. It'll be shocking to me because we'll have the opposite of Herbert right. So Herbert would have been shocking if he Did hit free agency, would show, hey, oh, tani, it'll be shocking if he doesn't go to free agency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my opinion that's what will shock me Whether he says with the angels on, maybe he does still stay with him, but I'm going, yeah, I'm gonna hit free agency. I'm gonna test the waters for sure. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, it's, it's, You're right. I mean I just, I just look at the standings, I just, and they're just, they're just, they have to climb a huge hole. And I just look at the teams above them and they're. And there's teams that are peaking now, at the right time, and they're, they're kind of just in that same rudderless. When I watch them and got we don't know when trouts gonna come back. I haven't, I haven't heard an update when he's coming back.
Speaker 1:I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's their second best player, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1:And I feel like you need that right right.
Speaker 2:So if you're gonna make a, if you're gonna make a playoff push, he's got to be part of it. I know he should. I'm assuming he should be back soon. But yeah, without him there's no protection in the lineup. Yeah, it's like there was a pitcher last night. He's like, look, I'm gonna throw to him because there's I'm gonna, I'm gonna peak. He pitched in no time because there's no BS behind him that can hit. So I'll keep challenging him until he's still something else that team can prove that they can hit.
Speaker 1:So if you're right but I mean, if I'm the GM, I'm just throwing out that king ramsome Request and seeing what comes back All right, I'd like something gonna come back for a guy that said you don't know who's gonna be there, like I think they have a distressed asset in the sense that when these things happen, we all know that he can hit free agency here in about eight weeks right.
Speaker 2:We all know it Right, Give up for that, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm not giving up a ton for a guy. I know it ages free agency in the fall Like and you know why would I give up a ton for that? Yeah, I know, eugene, that he's resigning with me.
Speaker 2:No right, and that way. And then, or at least he had one more year control Cause, like, like when we brought the the, the one side of uh thing last week is the same situation. Like the, it made sense for San Diego to give up so much for him because the hill, so that one year, you know that extra eligibility year, right, so they, they're going me too bad, it's not working out. For the mystery Cause I know their thought process was like okay, well, well we'll, we'll be fine, we'll get rid of all these prospects and they had.
Speaker 1:San Diego had a good team on paper, man.
Speaker 2:They do and they still do, and that's the thing, and they and I. But. But now they're, they're shopping some of their guys, and I've heard one is actually being shot, but he's in the same situation. He can hit free. He's going to hit free agency at this year, cause he's not again, he's not dumb, he's doing the same thing. Oh, tiny's going to do this. Two guys are going to hit free agency at the same time, so so don't free agency this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to be a disaster for the Padres, in my opinion. Like I don't, I think that you would have had to hope that you can convince him to stay with you, right Cause they, they did give up.
Speaker 2:They gave up some stuff, man.
Speaker 1:Right To get this guy in. If he walks in one calendar year, he walks to the calendar. You gave up all that stuff for one guy. That that was in hopes that you can convince him maybe to stay for longer than that Right.
Speaker 2:Right, right, cause, I mean, cause you, you got him back, cause you gave him up. Uh, they gave the King ransom up last year. Then you had that one extra year with them and but you've got this was the year right, you make the push, yeah, push for the because, okay, yeah, you lot, you beat the Mets but you lost them. You know you lost the Phillies and uh, in the uh and and and you know, in the uh naturally championship series. And now, now, you're not even relevant this year, you're, you're, you're just treading water this year.
Speaker 2:So you, I mean, you could still kind of make a push for that last, that last, one of those last wildcard spots, cause it's a little more doable than the east, than it is. I think, in, I'm not starting in the L versus the L, but yeah, I, I don't know it's, I just you're right, uh, with Ohtani it's, it's just crazy that I mean, I hope it's just one of the things. If you, if you, if he walks away, all you're doing, you're, you know you're going to get one draft pick back for him. So who knows what you got to go for him if you traded him.
Speaker 1:I think, when you look at it from that perspective of what you could have had versus what you will have, I think that changes. I mean, oh, at least it puts things in. I want to say it changes things, cause he did still end up staying, but are they still end up keeping them? But I do think that I don't know, man, I don't know, I think that just couldn't stomach sending him somewhere else. And from a box office standpoint you know what I mean From a a several marketing standpoint, I think that's. I think that's marketing standpoint, team standpoint I just think that they couldn't stomach. Right, it'd be like trading, trading your best player at the end of the year with hopes of keeping him. Like, look at a Damian Lillard type situation. Right, we look at the. They don't want to trade them now. He's already asked for it. They still don't want to let him go out and they don't want to let him out of there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And of course a little is not an unrestricted free agent. But the thing is that I'm going to the similarity of a guy being in your house and you not wanting to let him out. Like you, they just they're. They're holding on to Otani's leg man. They do not want him to leave that building. Um, I don't think he's going to leave the West Coast. I do think that he stays there. I think he is on the coast.
Speaker 2:I think he does too. Cause again, we know the, the girlfriend or the wife, I don't. I can't remember the lawyer relationship status, but I know that I know he's comfortable out there because I know she's in there. And I listened to Jeff Parsons. Jeff Parsons the other day. He made a great point about Otani. He says it goes we got to remember too that when these, these guys are comfortable, um, they're comfortable in their surroundings and it's and it's just like anything else, like if you could start a new job. You got to learn your new boss, learn all these new things, learn these new things about your organization, about the team.
Speaker 1:Get back into the zone that you were already in at your previous situation.
Speaker 2:Correct. So now you're asking him to just say he has to go. He goes to the Dodgers or I don't know some. Cause you're right, I believe it's going to be a West Coast team. Whatever it is, I don't think he comes to New York, or or? I've heard you know, I've heard our team at Atlanta in those, in those things too, I wish, yeah, I do too, but it just, I think, the West Coast, and let's just face it. I mean, if I'm a player, I want to be on the West Coast as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely I'm nice, come on man, beautiful weather all the time. You kidding me. Where? Why? Why not? If you're already there and you have the ability to go there, right, why would you? Why would you not? You can go. Brave northeast winners and stuff like that. Are you? Is that without what you're looking to do? Why, when you don't have to? And the thing is to, about a trade like this is Does he want the win? How much is he prioritizing winning? Because that will be where you start to get those other teams involved. That's where, because other teams can't compete from a location. Your location is your location. If you're located in northeast, you're located in southeast, you locate on the east period. You're located there. You can't change that right. However, if you decide that, if he opens it up to, I just want to win now, more teams get opened up. You G. Now that that statement opens up more teams, well, if you want to win now, the Braves do become viable. You see what I'm saying now. Now these other teams do become.
Speaker 2:Viable teams, all these teams on the East Coast become viable. So, oh wait, you want to win now. Because it's kind of like that time when we talk about come out Carmelo, that's kind of like well too, when JJ watt signed with them with Arizona, he's like it's like, oh, you're just going there because they're getting you the most money you don't want to win.
Speaker 1:You're not winning there, bro, you're not winning there.
Speaker 2:Right, you sign there, because that was the one thing when he signed there, we all kind of know well, and they gave him the most money and I'm not faulting him by Never.
Speaker 1:I would never fall to my proud capitalists here, man I don't write all, you take the most money, but can't talk out of both sides your mouth, eugene, correct. You want to win or you want to take the most money. A lot of times those things aren't the same thing. You're gonna diverge. Your paths are gonna diverge sometimes. Sometimes they can be.
Speaker 2:Sometimes your paths are gonna diverge, right now and he probably will be him, and one will probably be either one a1b, both the highest paid players I'll take either one of them in right, on both their teams. But if he, if Otani, stays with in in LA, doesn't, if he stays with Anaheim, he's not winning, he's just never. There does not got to be a winning franchise.
Speaker 1:If you weren't able to win with trout and him there all these years I mean not all these done like that, been there for like 10 years, but they they've been there longer than one and like, if you haven't been able to put something together with them and you've had this and unfortunately with the trout situation has been injury Issues here there's no guarantee that I'll be settled, even if you were as a resigner. You know, a guy on paper is not the same thing as a guy on field, as we've seen in in other sports. Right, it's not the same.
Speaker 2:So no, I mean you're hoping to be able to keep him.
Speaker 1:Maybe you can get a run, I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's different, though, if you let's just say they sign him to a 10-year, whatever the numbers crazy numbers gonna be, and then you trade.
Speaker 1:Well, half a million dollars, right, happy dollars You're gonna be right, you trade in, you try out, gets healthy.
Speaker 2:You trade him this offseason for a bunch of building pieces, so then you, at least you have him there, and now you have the pieces are building around, so maybe, maybe they do that. What's it? What's C? Well said, see what, what happens with the session. I would have traded him though that would have been me just to see what I got.
Speaker 1:What do you face? You face down the firing squad there and just and just and just let it go, just let it rip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because, like you, said if I can't win, I've had trout. For how many years I had made a boat trouts, I think when he's been to one playoff Series.
Speaker 1:I underdelivered on the contract for sure of the money being paid is not equating to what they felt the W's were. But it's Mike trout though a Mike trout. Mike trout, I can't, it's not him he's.
Speaker 2:When the his wins are Against replacement wins versus replacement is is is one of the highest. So he's done all he could. He can't. It's baseball. You've got to have other guys on that team, you've got. He's the only can.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about him, bob it, here at the end as we wind our show down here. Let's talk about it a little bit about in Bob, a turning down, southern Bob, a turn down about Over 700 million dollars from the sods to play for one year. This is a situation that surprised a lot of people around me but did not surprise me for a couple reasons. So I'm gonna give a reason that I feel like he could have taken it taking it and a reason why. The reason why I Don't think it's crazy. They didn't. No, for one.
Speaker 1:A lot of people but when they're looking at money, depending on what your socio-economic situation is, you feel like it's gonna solve all your problems. If you're on the lower and I feel like this, there are people who are on the lower level that socio-economic scale really feel this because they haven't had a chance to have the money and see how much it doesn't change things. If you have Women problems when you're broke, making money is gonna have women around you, but you're still gonna have women problems Because that's if that's inherently you money just gonna make it more. Maybe you have women problem with three or four women now because you have money, so maybe now you have several women problem versus having it with like one person. You know, buddy, money changes your economic condition. I do think it can make you happier to a certain degree, because it being poor, not being able to pay your bills, would definitely make you sad, right? So if you ever to pay your bills and you now you can pay your bills, you're not to worry about the the purchases you make. You could purchase anything you want. That's gonna bring a certain level of happiness with you.
Speaker 1:But there's a cap to that. There's a cap to that and I really feel like in Bap a at what like 24 as Probably even now, from endorsements and money's already made, it's gonna be hard for him to spend the money he has now, right, so you just add more money on to it, maybe generation or maybe for the kids that haven't been born yet, maybe for something like that. People might feel like maybe that changes his life. But if you are a 24 year old kid, why would you be thinking about that? You're probably thinking about what makes me happy now. I've already got more money than I could spend. I'm already on yachts now. I can already fly private now right.
Speaker 1:What? And I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia, so, like, it's pretty simple, right? So if you're like I want to live where I want to live and that's not act like, your offers aren't gonna be nine figure offers anyway, you're gonna get offered nine figure offers, bro, like you're, you have two to three hundred million coming anyway, right? No matter that, that's just the going rate for a player of that caliber, right, one of the most popular players in the world your endorsement money can reach nine figures. You're, you're a popular player, so you get to do what you want. Guys, when you have that kind of money and that means turning down much more money Is one of those things that you can do. When you have that kind of money, you could turn down much more because you already have it right?
Speaker 1:Or we talked about this with Tom Brady and turning down money. He already had money. So it's kind of like to Tom Brady he wants to win, the one thing that he can't buy. You can't buy those W's. If you have a team that can win or you're in a place that you want to be, that's what you do. Look at how many people take pay cuts to be in a place like LA. We just talk about LA, right? Yep, people go to LA. They'll take that shave, right? Look at Russell Westbrook. Could have got more money than what he made this year. He said I'm staying in LA, man, yeah.
Speaker 1:Staying in LA I'm not poor and I'm gonna stay where I want to be. So the situation with him, bob a, that's my Case for him not taking the money my case for him taking the money was this is similar to the same situation with age. You're only 24. This is only a one-year contract. You do your one year in Saudi Arabia, you're out of there at 25 700, over $700 million richer, right, and you're still out of there at 25. So when you weigh them, I gave way more reasons for him not to take it than to take it because I really thought.
Speaker 1:That's the only Reason you take it right. If you don't want to be in Saudi Arabia, you're only there for the money. You're not there for your the course of your career, you're there for the cash and and, being that you're only 24, you still have the opportunity to go to Real Madrid or another place. If you want to go there. 25, you're not over the hill. You know what I mean. You'll still have people offering you Another nine figures at that age. You know right, he's gonna be offered be getting these nine figure offers for the next couple of contract cycles in my P. Yeah, so I Do get. It was a surprise to you that he turned down the money.
Speaker 2:No, because he, like you said he's 24, but in, you're right, he could go there one year.
Speaker 1:But man would that hurt, his hurt, his stature, right, and now you know that it's probably the level of play right, because they're, you're not, is definitely not a Premier League there.
Speaker 2:Not a Premier League and also just the optics, right? You don't want to be associated with me? I mean, let's just, I know we're gonna talk about live golf at some point, but you want to be associated with what, what? Saudis and just what that I mean because that the new Golf is pretty much an international sport. So you can't tell me that, that he didn't hear about the backlash from that and Except he's one of the most popular. So here's the thing In soccer, that stuff, those kind of sports over there, if you do something like that it's gonna follow you.
Speaker 2:It's like I mean, look at, look at Christian Norano, all the allegations that followed him in the World Cup. So it would follow him always the next World Cup because he's gonna be 28, 27, 28 with the next World Cup. That would still come up. If he played one year, when was the size? Like like the karma police would come after him for next several years of white and like he said he's probably gonna sign with real Madrid, which would make the most sense. You know like, go go somewhere.
Speaker 1:Rumor seems to be that he wants to be there, and there's nine figures waiting for you. Waiting for you there, buddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So why just go to the team you know and then when you know then I could get, then we're gonna come cut. World Cup comes back around. I get to be One of the best players again gonna be. My team's probably gonna be favored, or sorry, my country's gonna be favored when I go to the World Cup. Why, just why, mess with the optics like that? You know I'm gonna make, he's gonna make that money somewhere else. You know it may.
Speaker 1:You know it may not be that the arm a lot of places else he's gonna have it. I feel like the endorsements alone to pay him for the next 20 years, right? So, because those endorsements keep going after your career stops, my friend, if you're successful, like he's been successful, he's look at, look at paylay man. Look at, yeah, paylay, successful till he passed, like it. It didn't matter that he wasn't playing, we knew who this guy was. We knew, everybody knows who paylay everyone who paylay is, and because of his past success right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing we no one really know. I mean, I'm not saying no one, but most Novice soccer fans didn't know my body, my body, until we watched World Cup.
Speaker 2:We got and we excellent player excellent player and we actually got, for once, other than this passable a two top players Actually perform at the highest levels, like we got to see messy perform at a high level. We got to see about they perform at a high level. Usually that doesn't happen. Usually one guy, one guy is good, one guy's face. But, like I said, we were spoiled. We got that. And then we got Super Bowl. We had A come, you know, two great quarterback plays, which usually doesn't happen, even in Super Bowl. So to have that in a World Cup stage and him to be like okay, for all the soccer fans who knew of him knew he's great, that's awesome. Now I'm the like you and I are the novice soccer fans. So we've, we've very. They admit that, you know we.
Speaker 2:Absolutely we watch it every four years on occasion, man on occasion, and we'll go to Lenny and I game if the tickets are provided for sure right.
Speaker 1:Usually that does. I've been sponsored there. I have not, uh, laid out my own Right.
Speaker 2:First person say that but again, I go to the same things. I have fun, I watched World Cup, I enjoy it, and but it's the thing I didn't know of him until I watched him and I was like, wow, and you can like, because I really honestly I was watching the last year's force because for I met messy and ronaldo, because those guys are older and I wanted to at least watch them probably.
Speaker 2:Their last World Cup players right, and I was like, wait a minute, who's this guy? And I was like and then? And then you thought the archer team was gonna just walk away with it. And he's like, uh-huh, he came in just bull those, you know, got them back in that, got his country back in the end of the game. But yeah, he's, he's fine. Don't, though we don't need to start a gophin. Go fund me for him either.
Speaker 1:So no, go fund me for Rogers.
Speaker 2:No, go for him, bob.
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